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24 April 2005 @ 11:00 pm
masquerade {painted faces on parade}  
alternating between writing letters & writing for winterspark 4, and i've got quite a nice little setup in the lounge room right now, with everything including the laptop within arms reach. have been watching phantom of the opera and fahrenheit 9/11, but the latter i switched off halfway through because in all honesty it was depressing me too much. i hired it (thanks to the 2-for-1 blockbuster voucher i had so it was free with phantom anyway) because i thought it would inspire me to write but i have to admit that phantom of the opera is inspiring me much more. which is why i'm watching it for the 3rd time since yesterday. haha.

i'm writing a piece on sexual harrassment in the workplace for my zine, and i would really appreciate it if you wouldn't mind filling in this poll... and if you don't mind, perhaps spreading the word for other people to answer it too? i suppose i'm trying to get a "feel" for not just the prevalence of this, but the proportion of men versus women who get harassed. i know that this isn't a fair poll considering 90% of the people on my friends list are female (which is why it would be great if people could spread the word, just to make it a bit more... even, perhaps?) but i'm not using this as scientific 'proof' or anything like that, just to trigger some thoughts in my own mind. i've started writing the piece, i figure that doing this can't hurt... it's really just for my own interest because i've hit a bit of a writing block.

also, i realise that sexual harassment is as much perception as it is intention; what one person considers harassment may not be defined as such for someone else. this is just about what YOU BELIEVE.
also in the section about knowing people who have been harassed, i'm asking only for people that you know "in real life" - not people just from online. otherwise we could probably all just answer "yes" because the online world is so big and vague, we've all probably stumbled over a journal or a message board post from someone who has been... so this is just people that you know personally. family, friends, co-workers, relatives, classmates etc.
results are anonymous. {thankyouverymuchifyoudoanswer xx}

Poll #480965 sexual harassment in the workplace

please check the TWO items that refer to you (gender/whether you have or haven't been sexually harassed in the workplace}

i am female
3(3.3%)
i am male
0(0.0%)
i believe i HAVE been sexually harassed in the workplace
0(0.0%)
i believe i HAVEN'T been sexually harassed in the workplace
0(0.0%)

do you personally know of any FEMALES who HAVE been sexually harassed in the workplace? (NOT including people you know solely online)

yes
58(63.0%)
no
34(37.0%)

do you personally know of any MALES who HAVE been sexually harassed in the workplace? (NOT including people you know solely online)

yes
19(20.7%)
no
73(79.3%)

on a scale of 1 (low) to 10 (high), how prevalent do you think sexual harassment in the workplace is against FEMALES (in general)?

Mean: 6.76 Median: 7 Std. Dev 1.54
1
0(0.0%)
2
0(0.0%)
3
4(4.4%)
4
5(5.6%)
5
9(10.0%)
6
10(11.1%)
7
37(41.1%)
8
15(16.7%)
9
8(8.9%)
10
2(2.2%)

on a scale of 1 (low) to 10 (high), how prevalent do you think sexual harassment in the workplace is against MALES (in general)?

Mean: 3.72 Median: 4 Std. Dev 1.45
1
5(5.6%)
2
13(14.4%)
3
22(24.4%)
4
24(26.7%)
5
19(21.1%)
6
4(4.4%)
7
1(1.1%)
8
2(2.2%)
9
0(0.0%)
10
0(0.0%)

anything else?

 
 
 
dramaprincess on April 24th, 2005 05:10 pm (UTC)
I didn't think this would fit in the comments section, so I'll leave it here:

I think short of blatant harassment, which I'm not even sure what I would call blatant harassment, I think in some ways there's a direct correlation between harassment and who the harasser is.

Let me see if I can try to explain this better:

At one of my previous jobs, there were several people with whom we would joke consistantly about sex, or race, but it was cool with them because we felt more like we were friends than coworkers. It's how we would have talked to each other outside of work.

But, were the same conversation to have come up with someone I didn't know, and didn't have a trust with, I would call it a form of harassment, because it would make me feel uncomfortable. Now, I'm not saying you should cry wolf if a creepy coworker tells you you look pretty today, but..

Is this making any sense, or am I coming across like an asshole? :)
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on April 24th, 2005 05:23 pm (UTC)
no, you TOTALLY make sense -- i think i agree with you pretty much. my friends only entries talk about a situation i've been in recently, and i've said something along the same lines - that i've felt uncomfortable because of WHO the person is more than what they were actually just doing/saying. i think that's why it's so hard to speak up about it - because it can be so subjective & personal sometimes.
thankyou so much for your comments & for filling in the poll. <3
Katiekatiedarling on April 24th, 2005 06:00 pm (UTC)
Did you know that, in the military exchange system, so much as SMILING at a customer (in my case, smiling at the sailors) is technically "sexual harrassment" and can cost me my job? Funny, because in the real world, when you DON'T smile at them, they complain to your manager, and your job is in jeopardy then too.....

Anyway. I was directed here by trillian42
feuille: #03mothhearted on April 25th, 2005 08:32 am (UTC)
i asked j to fill it out rather than myself, so i'm not sure if he answered on my behalf or his. gosh i am silly, but he works in a consistently mixed environment, while i work mostly alone now, but to mention a time where i have worked supervised by the owner of a store, i felt very intimidated by his comments about my body and his manner towards me which changed instantly when his wife became present, and among other things i believe it led me to resign.

i hope we were of some help.
chimeraechimerae on April 25th, 2005 09:54 am (UTC)
Referred here by lilmz
To a certain degree, much of the problem is that sexual harassment is in the "eyes of the experiencer" and the very nature of intimdation is that the person feeling harassed feels like they can't speak up/speak out.

I was a tech manager for years and had 13 men working for me in the tech department. Most of them were young (20 - 24).

My friends in the front office were a group of women (40 - 60), just up the hallway, gleefully expressed their personal feminine empowerment by outrageous sexual silliness. They would grab men's asses, poke people in inappropriate places with pens, and the sexual banter was just endless. There was a posted list of what each of the men sounded like when they pissed. When the fundamentalist christian software manager got a vasectomy, they came up with a flower arrangement that they sent to his house (with small childen at home) that was a single tall liatrice with two short crysanthemums died purple -- and an note full of double entendre. That was not considered harassment because he was a manager and they were office staff.

And yet, when one of my admittedly geeky guys would make a fairly tame sexual comment, they would FREAK OUT and I would get hauled in to the president's office and ordered to fire someone. I didn't. As people have said here, it feels like harassment if it comes from someone who makes you uncomfortable, that you consider creepy.

Instead, I fought a ten year battle to educate. And, in return, I was the target for sexual harassment those very people who were my friends. Because my standards were different than the status quo, I was constantly under "humorous" attack It was painful. I gained 40 pounds.

But I was no novice to the war on sexual harassment and abuse. I've always been the person young women come to when they are experience truly untenable harassment.

And I came up through the tech ranks, where the prevailing military environment is pretty darned oriented to the locker room. I was targeted for pretty tame stuff mostly -- huge posters of naked women in my work area BECAUSE I was there.

The worst part might not have looked like harassment to the outside, but was the most painful for me -- I started in the warehouse where the temperature in the summer was 110. The manager told me that I couldn't wear t-shirts and shorts because I had breasts and it was therefor too much of a distraction. I had to be fully clothed, even though the men who worked there were as near to naked to deal with the heat.

A lot of it's culture. We don't like to deal with the reality that our world is split into thousands of different subcultures and that each has their own expressions of inclusion/exclusion. And that expression of sexual behavior is one of the testing tools
Mick Gaelpopjunky on April 25th, 2005 04:10 pm (UTC)
Re: Referred here by lilmz
Are you male or female?
chimeraechimerae on April 25th, 2005 04:45 pm (UTC)
Re: Referred here by lilmz
I am woman hear me roar. :)