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18 August 2004 @ 10:52 am
the king's castle  
i read in my book of how things were back in the 1500's and before, how it was a man's world. and the king could take anyone to bed and the queen, his wife, would just have to smile and bear it because he was the king and it was his world. women were there only to serve the men, even if they didn't agree or like what they were doing. they weren't given a say at all because it was a man's world. and i read this and i think, how terrible, how unfair.

but then i come to work, i come to work in the business/corporate industry i'm in, and have things really changed? the means and ways are different but the idea is still the same. it is still a man's world and women are here to do the men's bidding. the men hold the positions of power and the women are faceless, voiceless, unaccounted for. this office here, the one i work in, it is a man's world here. all the top positions are held by men, women are denied the same chances but not that they can ever say it in those words. it is just implied, unspoken, an undercurrent that flows beneath the smooth surface. it doesn't need to be said. men are brought in from outside the company for the top jobs instead of letting a female progress. women sit on the front desk, women are the personal assistants for the men, organising their business lives for them but letting the men take all the credit. our senior executives are men but who do they call when things go wrong? the women assistants. and i even hate that word, 'assistant'; because it always seems to mean women. never men.

i know there is meant to be more equality both in the world and in the workplace for women. but it will never be completely equal. it's not 1524 and the young girls aren't fanned at the kings feet waiting for him to take his choice of mistress while the queen stands by unable to protest; but the men are still at the throne and the women are below to do their work but never sit in that high seat themselves. and the method has changed but all in all... it's still a man's world.

a broker rang up today and asked to speak to someone who wasn't there. i said, "could someone else help you?" and he said "yes, one of the other boys will be able to help me". i put him through to natalie instead.

winterswitchery on August 18th, 2004 01:48 am (UTC)
women are below to do their work but never sit in that high seat themselves.

And what of Queen Elizabeth I?

I know what you mean though. A customer in electronics once asked me if there were any boys around to help with a carry out. Normally I call the stock guys because I'm a small person with not much muscle. But that peeved me. I ended up doing the carry out myself..fucker..LOL
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on August 18th, 2004 03:52 am (UTC)
yes, there are always exceptions :) there are females in power, both of countries and of businesses. and if i wanted to stick around this industry for longer, i would be aiming for one of the top spots too. just to prove i can ;)

mainly in this book it just amazes me how the king can have his way with women and all the others just have to smile prettily and accept it - after all, he's the king, and a man. the queen has no rights of her own except to be there when the king wants her. and unfortunately, not a lot has really changed :X

*shuts up* hehe.
ex_fetching on August 18th, 2004 02:35 am (UTC)
I spoke with a (self-proclaimed) "male secretary" once. It was interesting.

[[I love this entry.]]
    scarlet's walk: [syndarys] witching !kisstheviolets on August 18th, 2004 03:54 am (UTC)
thankyou <3

{i said to my friend the other week that when i have my own business, i was only ever going to have male receptionists ;))
indriya on August 18th, 2004 04:20 am (UTC)
If I should ever be in need of an assistant, I'll be hiring a "male assistant", too... :) Nice concise argument you've written as well...
Thank goodness there are more and more men who respect women these days... But still, such a shame there aren't more of them who honestly, through-and-through do respect women in every area of life, and not just in the bits where it suits them to do so...
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on August 18th, 2004 07:19 am (UTC)
yes, things have definitely improved since the 1500s! but sometimes i wonder if it's really as equal as we - or the men - like to think it is... they talk of "equal opportunity" and how it's "illegal" to disciminate on the basis of gender, but it still happens all the time. more often than a man will readily admit too.
Kirstie: [meditate free spirit]kirsidee on August 18th, 2004 03:41 am (UTC)
i so want to read this book.

ps: i loved this entry and i loved the last line. you are divine miss stargirl

    scarlet's walk: [syndarys] witching !kisstheviolets on August 18th, 2004 03:56 am (UTC)
i think you would love this book <3 i don't want to stop reading it !
lovelovelove xx
dragon's milktangledlimbs on August 18th, 2004 05:38 am (UTC)
i think it will always be this way because i swear there is just some genetic thing in men to be in control, i think that women are more..the fighters. there are always exceptions. we survive. i think we are like strong undercover agents. the men couldnt take it. ;) i know its horrible, really.

wow. there needs to be a book where its reversed..like some freaky science fiction thing. could you imagine that?

i met a boy, that treats me like im in control. it is so very weird. weird but..enlightening.
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on August 18th, 2004 07:22 am (UTC)
it could be like the stepford wives but in reverse lol.
i think women are like secret weapons, really... thats not such a bad thing ;)
ontheseams on August 18th, 2004 10:52 am (UTC)
Great entry. It reminded me of the businessman who sat in our train compartment on the way from Vienna back home. He was white & British, fiftysomething, wearing an expensive suit & had a woman from Thailand with him. Wietske and I observed them for a while and at first we thought they were colleagues on the way to meeting abroad or something, but as we found out more (her talking about how she needed to go back to her homecountry to arrange some stuff before she could move to England permanently, the fact that she barely spoke English, etc.) it seemed more & more like he brought her from Thailand to be his wife. He was pretty nice to her in a belittling sort of way, but I remembered seeing this documentary once about European men finding wives abroad because they're easier to boss around than Western women and I just thought 'ugh'.
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on August 19th, 2004 06:45 am (UTC)
ugh, i've heard stories of that too. men who get wives from thailand because they are young and pretty and they are desperate to come to australia or america or wherever, so they let these horrid men use them. it's so sad and disgusting. :(
ashes2ashes614 on August 18th, 2004 01:22 pm (UTC)
a broker rang up today and asked to speak to someone who wasn't there. i said, "could someone else help you?" and he said "yes, one of the other boys will be able to help me". i put him through to natalie instead.

hahaha! Good for you. :)
underwater thing_happy_phantom on August 18th, 2004 04:55 pm (UTC)
i SO know what you mean. i do think we've seen incredibly drastic improvements, but equality in the workplace is still far far off. the glass ceiling, the pay gap... it's pretty depressing, when you stop & think about it.
snowflakesugar on August 18th, 2004 05:06 pm (UTC)
i think that the issue of women and men's equality (or the lack of it)affects us much more than it affected the women in 1500s. i say that because we do know that equality is possible and that women being under-apreciated is unfair, but (most) women back then probably though it was the right thing to do, to lower their heads to men.
(i don't know if this adds up anything to the discussion.)
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on August 18th, 2004 11:15 pm (UTC)
i completely agree. in fact, it was one of the things i was thinking about last night on the way home, and how back then, it was a given that women served the men. it was out in the open, not hidden. now we say there's equality, but there's not. it's just more subtle now and somehow that's almost worse. hey, at least back then they were honest about it!
krystallos on August 18th, 2004 06:35 pm (UTC)
*hugs* great entry!
dovetail on August 19th, 2004 06:35 am (UTC)
Awesome entry here. The times will change but the game will always remain the same, in one form or another. But women have made a lot of progress, just look at how different the past 50 years are compared to now! At least we're working WITH men in the office now and not in our little spheres (a.k.a. the kitchen) all day waiting for husband to return. :)

Did you know that until the 1940s a secretary was considered a man's job? And then when the men left for war and the woman took over, they stayed in those positions and then it became known as a woman's job. Strange.

But we can progress a LOT more. The feminist movement isn't over by a longshot.
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on August 19th, 2004 06:52 am (UTC)
yes, things have definitely improved! but there is always room for more, and i think some things get swept under the carpet now so people THINK it is all equal and fair and everything, but in reality, it's not. and that is so interesting about the secretary formerly being considered a man's job, because now it seems everyone's first impression is of a woman. there are never men receptionists with any of the companies we deal with here, it's... yeah, strange how things change.
2much on August 21st, 2004 07:55 am (UTC)
Hey, I just came by here on impulse because you hang out at dovetail's. I really like what I see so I'm going to add you to my friendslist. I hope you'll enjoy reading my LJ too...