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13 March 2005 @ 10:28 am
another 'shallow' (haha) post  
hmm... first earrings, and now skin-care products!
i swear, i do have real things to say! one day ;)

okay, prompted by heatherica's post, what skin care products do you use and recommend? which ones do you stay away from? do the expensive brands really work? (i once got a sample of la prairie's facial cleanser and it was absolutely heavenly. however, i will never pay $ 120 AUD for a cleanser, no matter how nice it feels). do you think that are eye creams necessary? what about serums? do you use any?

a completely shallow post but i really do find skin care fascinating. i have books on it, books that dispute the claims that cosmetics companies make (of course, don't we all love advertising? the sad thing is that... i do. i would buy cosmopolitan magazine for the advertising. ahem), that discuss the use of various ingredients in the products. but i'm interested in Real People's experiences.

{and just for the record... currently i use neutrogena skin clearing cleanser/mask and moisture defense facial moisteriser. i like the way my skin feels after using the cleanser, but i have problem skin anyway, it's unpredictable. and i stay far away from clinique products... they just make my skin even worse. lancome and estee lauder are nice to me, but is it really necessary to pay so much for a moisteriser and a cleanser?}

and then there's the issue of companies animal testing or using ingredients that have been tested on animals... i think many of the major companies unfortunately do use ingredients that have been animal tested, so even if the actual product hasn't been (thus enabling them to label their packaging with the phrase "this product has not been tested on animals"), it doesn't mean the company is entirely animal-friendly. i think. i need to do a lot more research about that and i'm not pointing any fingers at any of them until i get my facts straight; but this is an issue for me (albeit a disappointing one because i do like some of the products these companies make, but not at the expense of unethical treatment). this site has some good information if you're interested in that sort of thing. it's really hard to know what's right and what's ethical these days. everything seems corrupt and unhealthy to something (animals, environment, energy resources, ourselves...) in some ways :(

but all that aside. tell me what you use and what you recommend :D

and just on the topic of skin care, people in australia, if you get the current issue of harper's bazaar magazine, there's a voucher in there to use at a selection of beauty salons to get a free facial, manicure, pedicure, massage... no catches. i'd love to get a facial because i've never had one before; but i'm also thinking i might give the voucher to my sister to get a manicure because she loves those and only gets them on special occasions. not sure yet; it's tempting to keep it for myself but i like giving things away too. maybe i'll just buy another copy of the magazine ;) (just kidding)

fructiferousfructiferous on March 13th, 2005 12:21 am (UTC)
i use nivea's oil-free moisturising fluid. i'm really fussy, i won't use anything else unless i absolutely am forced to. when i can be bothered to moisturise my body, (which i really should be doing every day) i just use nivea's body silk, or whatever it's called. i don't use a cleanser because they don't work, unless i need the placebo effect of thinking my pores are being cleared out, and then i use the garnier cleanser with the bits in it. lol. :D and i only use plain dove for soap.

oh that voucher sounds divine. you know what i think? keep it! you're so amazingly generous, and giving is such a good feeling, but just this once, let yourself be spoiled. :)

?%___heroi nfrost ed flakes___&;;: mirror mirrordistantsun on March 13th, 2005 12:46 am (UTC)
I have problem skin (...what a term!) too and actually currently swear by a range called Simple. S'been better to me than the famous brand names so far. You can get it at Priceline! They don't test on animals and don't use any animal-derived ingredients :)

There's another range called Witch, I think (as in witchazel, which I hear is good for bad skin,) that friends have told me is good. Again, fully vegan.
Silent Poetry: 33ladyopal_worship on March 13th, 2005 12:46 am (UTC)
I love Lush for skin care products. I must have tried every moisturiser on the market but found none better than 'Enzymion' for improving condition and softening skin so that makeup smoothes on perfect. Also their 'Mask Of Magnaminty' face pack is the most amazing product I have come across for quick-acting spot removal, their stuff is pretty cheap too. There's also the bonus that all of their stuff is natural, animal-friendly and in a lot of cases, vegan.

As far as cleansers go, a dermatologist once told me there is no need to go expensive as they all do practically the same thing, just use one that's mild. I like Cetaphil or Dermalogica.

But of course the best skin care product is WATER! lots and lots of it (I try and drink at least 2 litres a day) eating apricots helps too. I also take an Omega 3 supplement (a recommendation from Milla Jovovich on her website) that helps for people who usually only get spots on their chin (like me), it has something to do with your dietary tract, I can't quite remember the full story.
kys mig, jeg er danskjadey_mcshadey on March 13th, 2005 12:52 am (UTC)
My skin is insanely sensitive, I'm allergic to everything, even sunscreen.

My naturopath recommended cetaphil and I love it. I use the cleanser and the moisturiser and my skin is really happy about it. It's cheap and you can get it at priceline, which is a bonus. My skin is really soft, so I don't use any body products, except for Dove soap (I'm allergic to glycerin soap, which SUCKS).

Tacohello_leannie on March 13th, 2005 12:52 am (UTC)
I used to use Neutrogena, but I've switched to Aveeno's Clear Complexion Foaming cleanser, and I don't think I will ever change again. I love it! :) I love all of Aveeno's Clear Complexion line.
turquoise popsicle of lightsea_fae on March 13th, 2005 12:56 am (UTC)
I posted this on my weblog a few weeks ago: (I work for the Pennsylvania Society for Biomedical Research)

I learned something interesting at work last week while reading a brochure. You know how some cosmetic companies label their product as not tested on animals? Well, what this really means is that they bought the product formula from someone who has previously tested that formula on animals. Or else they created the product from ingredients that have been previously tested on animals. So while they might not have tested their actual product on animals, the components of the product were tested on animals. The FDA requires that all cosmetic, toiletry, and fragrance products and their ingredients be tested for safety, otherwise they have to have a label on them saying that the safety of that product has not been tested.
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on March 13th, 2005 01:13 am (UTC)
oh wow... i hadn't read your weblog at all. i'd heard that before somewhere, ages ago, but couldn't remember where so i couldn't back up my post. that is interesting. it makes it hard to ethically buy things though, where there are ways companies can slip through with their labelling statements :(
drink meroseinyrteeth on March 13th, 2005 01:15 am (UTC)
the most expensive face-wash i ever used was dermologica , which was abut $30 in the US and which made my skin feel nice but really no better than that clear pore stuff by neutrogena or the face wash by dove (which i use now & recommend, since it's gentle and makes my skin feel nice) i'm fairly sure none of these test on animals, but i could be wrong?

<3 i wish i knew more about making my own cosmetics/skin/hair-products, it seems very interesting.
Riedameelysia on March 13th, 2005 01:26 am (UTC)
I've been wary of any body-care products that claim to do anything besides mosturize, after reading Kaz Cooke's Real Gorgeous-which debunks quite a bit.

However, I'm always up for some nice-smelling lotions and scrubby products.
CandyLand Gangster: me3heatherica on March 13th, 2005 01:51 am (UTC)
I just decided to get Kiss My Face Ultra Light Facial Creme and Burt's Bees Tomato Complexion Bar to try out, so I'll let you know how they are!
ex_snowcanwa171 on March 13th, 2005 02:15 am (UTC)

Well, I use Oil of Olay Total Effects Cleanser (with exfoliating microbeads), and their new Regenerist Serum. The serum certainly hasn't worked as much as I had hoped on my fine lines, but it has DEFINITELY made my skin a lot sofer and is good for wearing under makeup. The cleanser leaves my skin very soft too. :)

?starlakitty on March 13th, 2005 02:53 am (UTC)
oh, skincare products how i love thee!

well, i have super dry skin so i have about a 1,000 moisturizers at home. currently, i use st. ives apricot scrub, clinique moisture surge extra and oil of olay original moisturizer, cetaphil senstive skin facewash, & queen helene masks.

this all has a tendency to change though as i am fickle when it comes to beauty products!
Jen Renee ♥_fiveanddime on March 13th, 2005 05:20 am (UTC)
ok, i'm sorry this has nothing to do with your post (i don't use that many skin products, how odd is that??), but i'm on aim finally and you're not :( so hopefully i will catch you tomorrow jade!

(aim and i don't get along with my slow dial up connection along with my gmail alert, so i'm rarely on. but i most definitely want to chat with you soon.)

    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on March 13th, 2005 08:22 am (UTC)
ahhh, no worries bella. yeah, i took most of the day off to do other things, instead of staying on the computer for half the day, which is what i normally do on sundays lol.
hopefully someday soon we'll get to talk, but if not, you'll be within calling distance in a few months anyway! *excitement*
melymbrosia: serious mepalefire on March 13th, 2005 05:33 am (UTC)
I think I'm the only person who actually likes Clinique's skin care products, haha. Their foaming facial cleanser really works for me and is the only thing that makes my face feel truly clean, so I use that. But their moisturizer sucks. I also can't use Neutrogena products though, they always make me break out. What I really love lately for moisturizer is Purpose by Johnson and Johnson. It's got an SPF of 15 and lasts all day.

I love St. Ives apricot scrub exfoliator, you should give it a try. I use the Gentle Skin one because it's hypoallergenic.
melymbrosia: flowerpalefire on March 13th, 2005 05:34 am (UTC)
Bad skin is very rare in my family. My mother's never had a pimple, and neither did her mother. They equated it to the fact that they never washed their faces with soap - of course this was back in the fifties/sixties where facial soap was really harmful, but it goes to show that a lot of these products do more harm than good, especially if you have good skin to begin with. But I've never seen a pore on my mother's face.
d-elicatehandsdown on March 13th, 2005 05:49 am (UTC)
I'm not a big skincare girl, I find I have more problems with my skin than not when I use something on a regular basis (?). Having said that, I use Clinque's 7 Day Scrub once a week. I used to have the complete Clinque skin care range, but I found it useless, it didn't seem to do anything. Now I just use MACs cleansing wipes and drink lots of water. :)
indriya on March 13th, 2005 08:01 am (UTC)
A couple of years ago I bought Neutrogena on a recommendation from a friend, because I was getting itchy from my Nivea products... washed my face once with Neutrogena and 5 minutes later my entire face and neck was covered in big scary hives! guh! And Clinique had similar results. L'orèal was a bit rough on me, although one of their moisturisers was good (but they don't sell that one anymore). L'orèal make-up is pretty good on me, though. Body Shop stuff made me all eczema-ish.

I've been using Garnier Fresh face wash and moisturiser (oil-free) for about a year now, and my skin is the best it's ever been, but I can't find an eye cream that doesn't make my eyes itchy and hivey around the edges. Even the standard Garnier face moisturiser irritates my eyes... at this rate, I'm going to get wrinkles around my eyes by mid-30s because I can't moisturise. I sometimes get itchy after moisturising on my cheeks... I tried a Clarins mask once, and it was lovely, but that stuff is damn expensive, and I don't want to buy hundreds of dollars worth of stuff and find out I develop an allergy to it after a few uses... I've been thinking of trying Lush products at some point... Or perhaps something "vegetarian" & not tested on animals from Mrs Flannery's Healthstores.

So I guess I recommend Garnier Fresh. It's the best of a bad bunch. :)
dangerous & sad-hearted blonde: here comes the sunemmica on March 13th, 2005 09:39 am (UTC)
i buy a cheap series of cleanser, acne-water & moisturizer, works wonderfully. called blåvitt or something.
however, clearasil kills me.
clinique worked but was a bit too pricey for me.
lush is okay, i only like tea tree oil though.
nivea is good when you're really really dry, otherwise i never use it because it has a tendency to make my skin itchy.

i'm having trouble finding something that's unique and works for my skin, i've been kinda bored and want change. ladeda. >_>
(interesting post though. :))
The most fantastic of all muppets in the landfantasticmuppet on March 13th, 2005 03:02 pm (UTC)
maybe someone has already said it, but as to the issue of animal testing:

you're right,, when a company puts on the label "this product has not been tested on animals," it usually just means the finished product. to straighten things out, a new label has been developed for completely animal friendly products. now, i'm not sure if this is just in the u.s. or if it will be used in other countries as well, but products with a leaping bunny label are completely animal friendly.

more info here.
carmelitatoomanystars on March 13th, 2005 09:30 pm (UTC)
I have been using the Witch range (see here), but a couple of days ago I bought a new of products to see how they were. :)
foxglovedfoxgloved on March 14th, 2005 01:16 am (UTC)

It's true that if a product says "this product not tested on animals" that the individual ingredients may have been. I really need to find face wash and moisturizing lotion that is not tested on animals.
Elysia: ___&! firefly sunsetsstarellis on March 15th, 2005 07:40 am (UTC)
The Oil of Olay range works very well! ♥