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29 May 2005 @ 11:50 am
boycott rant  
I have been reading this website about Foreign prisoners being held in unfair or inhumane conditions, and it makes me really sad. There has been so much media attention on Schapelle Corby, but I think it's so important to realise that this isn't just a one-shot incident -- it happens all over the world, every day. I know I've been ignorant. I'm not so good with facing reality sometimes, and I hate the thought of pain & suffering, so I ignore it or pretend it doesn't happen. I think we all do, to an extent -- it takes an amazingly strong person to be able to face this sort of reality every day and not get dragged down by it but still do something to try and fight the injustices (I'm thinking about people who work for Amnesty International etc). I'm trying to be more realistic and not so blind though; I think my zine (either winterspark 4 or 5 since I'm working on both simultaneously but I'm not sure what order they'll come out in) will contain a section about prisoners abroad in some of the countries like Burma, Thailand, Vietnam etc, particularly women prisoners being held without a fair trial etc.

I am also really tired of hearing people say that they are boycotting Bali as a result of this verdict. There are sites like boycottbali.com or similar (I'm not being bothered to promote these sites by finding the exact urls ;)) that have been set up this weekend, and I just find it really sad. I know people are upset & angry about this verdict (you already know how I feel), but to boycott a whole country because of ONE [albeit highly publicised] court case is ridiculous and shows how ill-informed people can be. I am not talking about people who don't want to travel to Indonesia because they fear the internal conflicts, terrorism threats - those are valid reasons to have. I'm talking about the people I'm seeing on the Vogue forums or in the editorial sections of the newspaper who are writing in saying they won't travel to Bali as a direct result of this verdict. People who are saying "I'm not going to Bali, I might get jailed for 20 years" blahblahblah. Yeah, people are actually saying that. Someone wrote "Visit Bali = risking your life!" on the forums, and it would be amusing if it wasn't so narrowminded. Guess what, eating food = risking your life too (because you know, you could choke, or something) so why don't you stop doing that? Ohhh. I know this is just another opinion, and I'm not trying to change anything and people don't have to travel anywhere they don't want to. It just frustrates me that people can be so ignorant and say such ill-informed things.

Bali is NOT the only place in the world to incarcerate people who may be innocent and it frustrates me that people are acting like it is. Do some fucking research. Then look in our own backyard. Lindy Chamberlain, anyone? (sorry for all the overseas people who probably haven't heard of Lindy Chamberlain, maybe one day I'll write about that).

Just for the record, this isn't directed at ANYONE here on LJ, more just the general public response/reaction that I've been reading online and in newspapers. I just wanted to have a vent, you know? Argh. I should just shut up :(

edit: oh, and I haven't even started on my rant about people ringing up the Red Cross to request their donation money back that they gave for the Tsunami victims, and how the Salvation Army are saying that when people give money now they are requesting it doesn't get sent to Indonesia. WTF??? That disgusts and ashames me to be an Australian right now... and I hate saying that. But I feel very disgusted with the way some people are responding. /edit


In completely unrelated news, I really feel like shopping today. Too bad for having no money though. Must... remember... working... holidays... plans. Maybe I'll reread my Europe brochures as my shopping deterrant and remember that every makeup item I buy could buy a night's stay in some random European city instead. Oh, priorities! Yes, I think that's what I'll do.

d-elicate: Brokehandsdown on May 29th, 2005 02:39 am (UTC)
I think I need to do that, plaster my walls with reminders of my favourite American places & people, and get European and Asian brochures to act as my deterrant. I spent almost $1000 the other day. I = idiot. Although a chunk of it was on a long overdue haircut. I need to cut up all my bank cards and cancel my online banking!

    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on May 29th, 2005 04:09 am (UTC)
ooh, what else did you get? :)

I'm thinking I might make a little mini collage of pictures and stick it in front of my credit cards, so any time I'm out and I go to use it, I can think twice about what it's really costing me ;)

haha, love your icon :D
elizabethlizzi_barth on May 29th, 2005 03:05 am (UTC)
i agree 100%... i'm outraged by so many of the attitudes i've seen since the schapelle corby case really made news. it's sickening... it's just fighting fire with fire.

the thing is, australia has a pretty messed up past in places. there have been, and still are, terrible injustices. yet we like to separate ourselves from that... we accept that we, as individuals, are not the governments policies, we're not our country's mistakes. do i consider myself responsible for a lot of the problems in detention centres? nope. i've distanced myself from that. yet when it comes to this case, so many people seem to think that the indonesian public are responsible... that the judges' verdict goes hand in hand with the rest of bali. it's hugely hypocritical. ugh.
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on May 29th, 2005 04:16 am (UTC)
yes, exactly. people are acting like Bali & Indonesia as a whole are these horrible, inhumane places, and while I agree that there are definitely flaws in some of their systems, Australia isn't so perfect either... so do people here agree that tourists shouldn't holiday here because we have detention centres? 'cos that's exactly the same thing they're arguing about Bali right now. and argh, it's just frustrating. Hopefully when the emotions aren't so high, people will be thinking a bit more logically. you're right, it's fighting fire with fire but in the end, it's not going to get her out, is it!

yes anastasiaconcertina__ on May 29th, 2005 03:20 am (UTC)
i think that people are just struggling to find where to direct their anger and hurt, everything about this case and what it has triggered is tragic.
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on May 29th, 2005 04:10 am (UTC)
you're right, hon *hugs*
imslightlycrazy on May 29th, 2005 07:12 am (UTC)
They were saying on a talkback radio the other day just about a guy who has been in Spain for months and months for something he didnt do and it got appeald, and there is another guy in prison thats had a bit of pubcicity in Sierra leone... and so many more. makes me sick actually loking at that website

that is really disgusting that no one wants to donate to indonesia. .and joh has been saying after the tsunami thing that good relatioons seemed to be starting to form between them and Australia

and their are WAY too many shapelle topics at vogue

    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on May 29th, 2005 07:16 am (UTC)
Whats your username on the Vogue forums?
And I agree, definitely too many threads... and all of them say the same thing now *slaps head*
imslightlycrazy on May 29th, 2005 07:19 am (UTC)
"some girl" i joined just to have a look at something a friend mentioned, then i got a little hooked on it, especially the current affairs board :)
Kathee: tatougidgetlike on May 29th, 2005 12:48 pm (UTC)
As sad as this entire thing has been for you, it sounds like it's really doing a lot to heighten your awareness of international affairs - which is excellent. I'm really glad that you're taking this as a change to your worldview (a rational change, not a boycott-happy change) and not an isolated incident.

jessicasea__secret on May 29th, 2005 06:35 pm (UTC)
but boycotting bali might make a powerful statement if enough people did it. i'm sure their economy relies heavily on the tourism industry.

i know what you mean, though, as well.
love graffiti dancing in the streetsurban_ballerina on May 29th, 2005 11:10 pm (UTC)
i apologise for being ignorant.
i guess its even ignorant of us to focus all of our attettion to one case just because its broadcasted by the media.
but I think its me just awakening myself.
i think sometimes with people is they are not ignorant, its just that they are opening their eyes for the first time.

have some tolerance with us supposed 'ignorant' people. I just feel really upset at the verdict and like to think it is so clear cut as being able to lash out at the country involved and want to think that is some way justice is served because it is true, some people wont want to go there. I know this is silly because then we wouldnt want to go anywhere if we knew about other non-covered things. so thanks for opening my mind and showing me its not this clear cut. but do understand my feelings towards thsi country at this time, because its the first time I have felt such injust and am only opening my eyes to world injust at the moment.

and frankly sometimes I dont want to open my eyes to this because then nothing is right and there is no up and down and this confuses and depresses me greatly

and then i think i wish i never opened my eyes to newsreports at all. i dont want to know pain. i am useless against it and i dont want to feel that.
love graffiti dancing in the streetsurban_ballerina on May 29th, 2005 11:16 pm (UTC)
+ id rather choke and die on food that spend 20 years in prison. esp. when im only 27. I REALLY would be paranoid about going to Bali (or even the like countries that have strict judges on drug smuggling and where a lot of it goes on) incase there was something slipped in my bag. Because that would be the most horrible thing that could ever happen, personally to me. but then im a hugely paranoid person and worry about all things irrational, I guess that does make me a tad bit ignorant because I am totally irrational,
but i guess i cannot help it and do realise that people might judge me for this.
    scarlet's walkkisstheviolets on May 30th, 2005 03:53 am (UTC)
sweetie, i don't think you're ignorant, and i wasn't referring to you at all in this *hugs*
(i will respond a bit better when i'm not at work, but i'm sorry if you thought i was referring to you, because i really wasn't :()
melymbrosia: me with flowerspalefire on May 31st, 2005 02:41 am (UTC)
edit: oh, and I haven't even started on my rant about people ringing up the Red Cross to request their donation money back that they gave for the Tsunami victims, and how the Salvation Army are saying that when people give money now they are requesting it doesn't get sent to Indonesia. WTF??? That disgusts and ashames me to be an Australian right now... and I hate saying that. But I feel very disgusted with the way some people are responding. /edit

This part makes me the most disgusted of all... as if people have ANY control over where on earth they're born. It really says a lot more about the "nice donators" than it does about anyone. I'm speechless.